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Hello,

I recently discovered XStory and it is by far the best porn game I have seen up to now: Great stories, great looking and amazing features (the interaction with girls clothes is incredible). Of course, I would like girls attitudes to be better rendered (faces are still too static, gait could be more natural) but I love this game.

Now I have a question / suggestion: I was looking around the site and I didn't see any forum's rules, only the agreement not to post child pornography when I registered.
I think that there should be clearer forum rules. As an example, my girlfriend (yes, I play the game with her) also went through the forum and drew my attention to a subject on rape in the mod section (here: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=3833). She was quite shocked and I think she's right. Sex is great and experimenting too as long as the partner agrees.
Don't tell me: Man it's only a game! Taking hours to develop a rape scene denotes - to say the least - a dark side in which direction XStory should not go in my opinion.

I would propose that clear forum rules are set up excluding explicitly rape, bestiality and all snuff things.
Believe me, I'm not a moralizer but I personally think this is needed for the good development of this forum.

Thanks and sorry for those people who will be pissed off by my comment


Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:07 pm
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The rules are very clearly laid out:
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You agree not to post any content that depicts child pornography. You agree that “xmoonproductions.org” have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should we see fit. Posting spam will result in an immediate ban. As a user you agree to any information you have entered to being stored in a database. While this information will not be disclosed to any third party without your consent, neither “xmoonproductions.org” nor phpBB shall be held responsible for any hacking attempt that may lead to the data being compromised.

You can't get any clearer than that.


Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:27 pm
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Yes, but my point is that this is not sufficient in my opinion. I come back to my given example on the rape subject in the Mod section


Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:32 pm
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people who would actually do it won't be swayed by a computer game. people who would like the act without the repercussions, however, will be quite happy to keep it in a digital format. to come to a forum for a game like this and require that it exclude the grey areas of the topic at hand, is mildly ludicrous.

nevermind that the things you take objection to is, as noted, part of a MOD. as in 'not made by the developers of the base game'.
what people choose to put in their game, is their business. nobody real is getting hurt. keep it that way.

what concerns the base game, that has always been about consent. to a greater or lesser extent. barring alien'esque influences. :)
and the end product will reputedly be that of attending a school, where assorted members of the same or opposite sex may be interacted with in various ways. consent being a central part of the negotiations. and of course, always with the player character as the active and 'dominant' party. so the chance of any npc doing anything to your character you would not want, is remote.

mods will be made. mods will be discussed. but they are still just mods. if you don't download them, they won't have any influence on your game.

Thank you.


Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:00 pm
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Well I was not requiring anything, I was proposing.

What you call a "grey" area is for me a really dark one. I cannot but think that there is some kind of incitement there. In my country, such a subject on a forum would for sure result in the Authority requesting the closure of the site.

I respect your arguments and I do not share them. Btw, the site is owned by X Moon Productions, so they have some kind of responsibility even if it's not part of the base game.

However I love this game and I will of course continue to enjoy playing it.

Thanks


Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:40 pm
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@blacktie fully agree with elfseeker there are so much sex games out there you can play a less darker one if you will it is your opinion


Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:12 pm
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I disagree with the proposal, though I understand its basis. Rape and snuff I will certain agree are dark subjects. I'm not particularly fond of bestiality, myself. However, if someone wants to make a particular fetish, whether its my taste or not, there's really no cause to complain. I despise scat for example. Yet there is a mod for it. I deal with it by simply not downloading it, or not making use of it.

The original stories drew very close to the subjects you're talking about. In Dark Dreams we were drugging and imprisoning an unwilling person, and then proceeding to use various forms of violence on her. The only reason it wasn't rape was because BDSM happened to be the woman's fetish in the end and she was willing to have sex. Yet those actions are still pretty dark, aren't they?

Then we have Wet Dreams. The player character entered the female showers, took pictures and then proceeded to blackmail a woman into showing off her body for him. Then the player character pushed her further and ended up stripping her completely down. It was okay in the end since she's apparently an exhibitionist and she wasn't too pissed about it (heh). But then the player character goes into a school under the falsehood of being a teacher for the single purpose of having sex with an unknowing student.

The game itself you're enjoying actually has some rather dark content if you think about it. But it's just fantasy. No one gets hurt, no one goes to jail, all is well.

I think what would be more suitable for you and workable for those who don't agree with your original proposal is this; Introduce a tag system, which can include or exclude mods in your viewable list based on their content. Settings can be changed on your website's account settings.


Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:18 pm
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@Malachai: Ok , I can agree with all what you said. It's true that the base stories are quite dark after all. Maybe I did not realize that because my "dark limits" are beyond that. But it's only me.
As I said, it's a great game and I enjoy it and I will keep playing it.
My suggestion was not for me personally - as you say, I will simply ignore these types of mods and that's fine - but your "tag" idea could be a solution.

@tomahawk308: As said, I have no problems with the basic stories, so I will continue to play XStories

For what I am concerned, I think that we can end this topic here and now.

Thanks


Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:45 pm
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my opinion, I don't care about virtual rape, as long as it stay at pixel rape level.
I will probably not download this mod, too extreme for me, and that's all.

BUT, blackTie is right with one thing :
Illusion had serious problem with their game, and a had a lot of occidental complaining harpies, no, women on their ass; because of blablabla virtual woman blabla.
Since all the forum is viewable without login, it could be wise to place some topics in non public area (and create some registered only forum sections)


ps: I won't mention Illusion's game here, you know it, and I don't want to see it related with xmoon in google index.


Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:37 pm
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@BlackTie You are aware that Rape fantasies aren't just a male thing right? Some women have rape fantasies also whether they are the aggressor or not. Sex fantasies come in all shades dark to light. What some may see as minor bdsm play others may find sick or twisted. The treatment of Samantha in V2 could be seen as rape even though it was something she expressed a desire to experience. In this game no one is harmed in any way and when you get down to the reality it's all just numbers and symbols changing pixel colors.


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